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24 July 2009

Weeknight Takeout: Vinny's Pizza

Exterior of Vinnys PizzaUpdate 12/2009: Vinny's has become our first choice for takeout or delivery pizza. The crust issues I mention in the post below were resolved very quickly (it was a matter of getting used to new equipment); Vinny's pizza crust is now chewy and crispy and bubbly and wonderful. ~Lisa

My mother, a second-generation New York Italian transplanted to Los Angeles in the 1940s, bemoaned the lack of decent pizza in her adopted city in those early years (actually, there was hardly any pizza to be found in L.A. at that time, if you can believe it). When, a decade or so later, a place run by former New Yorkers opened up near us, we became regulars. We'd park behind the restaurant, and the screen door would slam behind us as we entered the kitchen to greet the guys and pick up our pizza. Most often, it would be anchovy pizza, my mother's favorite. If you stood on the sidewalk in front of the restaurant, you could look through the window and see one of the guys kneading the pizza dough, then throwing it up into the air again and again, expertly stretching it into a circle.

And the dough, which becomes the base of the pizza, is all important. After baking, it should be thin and foldable, chewy and with good texture, yet crisp on the bottom. The edge should be a bit puffy and browned, with charred, bubbly spots. The sauce should be a simple mixture of tomatoes, garlic, and oregano. And of course, the cheese should be good mozzarella.

Vinny's East Coast Pizzeria, which opened just days ago on Kirby Avenue (between Jarling's and the Seaboat, in the old Bagelman's and later Kafe K building), is attempting to bring New York-style pizza to our fair city. I've had pizza there twice now, and my verdict is: they get pretty close.

At Vinny's, they make the dough from scratch daily, and while perhaps not hand tossed, it is hand stretched (I saw one cook somewhat tentatively stretching the dough on his fingers; he was clearly just learning and maybe he'll work up to being able to toss it in the future!).

The finished product is pretty good: thin, chewy, crusty on the bottom, becoming a bit thicker toward the edge; cut into large wedges, foldable. The outside edge of the crust, however, while approaching bubbly, was not as browned as I would have liked, and though there was a hint of puffiness about the edge, it was nowhere near having charred spots. Something is a bit off, and not being a pizza-making expert, I'm not sure what it is, but I think it's the baking that's the issue and not the dough itself.Slices of cheese pizza and cheese topped with tomato slicesThat said, I liked the pizza slices I tried, overall. They did remind me of the pizza I used to adore as a child. With time, I think Vinny's will be able to perfect their technique and produce a really good crust. It's almost there now, it just needs to brown and bubble up on the edge. The sauce tasted good, and the cheese was melty and nice but not too heavy.Steak and bacon and pepperoni slices of pizzaThe plain cheese slice and the one topped with fresh tomatoes were my favorites. Keith was very partial to the pepperoni. What we both agreed you should stay away from was the steak and bacon slice. Normally I wouldn't order a slice of pizza with steak and bacon on it, but it was one of the slices of the day, so in the interests of thoroughness, I gave it a whirl. It was dry, and hard, and there was cheddar cheese on it. Enough said.

Prices for slices are very reasonable; I brought home four slices—cheese, tomato, pepperoni, and steak-bacon—for $10 even. Two slices would probably stuff you, and you'd shell out only about $4, depending on the type(s) you choose.Baked zitiWe also tried Vinny's baked ziti; the pasta is mixed with marinara or meat sauce and topped with ricotta, mozzarella, and parmesan cheeses. I found the ziti to be overcooked—not mushy, but too limp. I would have liked the pasta to stand up to my teeth better. The flavor was good, though, and the ziti came with a small mixed salad and a piece of nice garlic bread (that actually had real garlic on it!). At around 5 bucks for the 7-inch-diameter pan of ziti with a small salad and bread, you absolutely cannot beat it.

If you like whole-grain pasta, you can get whole-grain penne with marinara, parmesan, and basil for $4.25 (I assume you could also have meat sauce with your whole-grain penne).Meatball sandwichThe meatball sandwich was a winner, we thought. Vinny's makes their own bread, and it's good—crispy and crusty outside, tender and chewy inside (I was offered a choice of white or wheat). The meatballs, which they make daily as well, were covered with marinara, and mozzarella was melted underneath. Three meatballs on a 6-inch sub: $3.70. (You can also get 12-inch subs.)

Vinny's may be trying to do too much. Not only do they have the Italian offerings, but they also list a variety of salads, wings, sliders, and quesadillas on the menu. Well—maybe. I haven't sampled any of those items, so I can't provide an opinion, except to say that they probably should stick to pizzas, pasta, calzones, and subs.

On one visit I called before leaving the office, and when I arrived 15 minutes later, my order was packed up and ready to go. Another time I simply went in and ordered slices of pizza, and service was quick and friendly on that occasion as well.

Vinny's, welcome to the neighborhood. Thanks for offering homemade food at very affordable prices. We'll follow your progress with interest.

Vinny's East Coast Pizzeria
401 W. Kirby Avenue
Champaign, IL 61821
217-355-4500
Eat in, takeout, and delivery available
Credit/debit cards accepted
Open 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. daily

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42 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good to hear...and a welcome addition!

7/24/2009  
Blogger Mica said...

Yay! I'm glad to hear that Vinny's isn't a bust. I was giving it a skeptical eye from Jarling's the other day.

7/24/2009  
Blogger Amanda said...

Have you reviewed Antonio's on campus? I really like their pizza and wonder how Vinny's compares.

7/24/2009  
Blogger genkitummy said...

i think i'll be trying this place out today. it looks good. i was trying to figure out where i wanted to go for dinner tonight.

7/24/2009  
Blogger Razzie said...

I'll agree, as of now, Antonio's is my favorite around for both variety and crust texture. Plus they will sell you their dough for ~$1 if you want homemade pizza without the hassle of making your own dough. Oh and GenkiTummy...if you read this I want to go with you...

7/24/2009  
Blogger Nanette said...

I tried Vinny's last night and was very pleased. The cheese and sausage calzone (with ricotta, nom) was delicious, and I really liked the meatballs I ordered as a side--they had a nice garlicky taste to them.

It was super-busy, and it took about 40 minutes for me to get my order.

The only thing I wish they had: garlic knots.

7/24/2009  
Blogger Mindy said...

Thanks Lisa! I've been wanting to try it out. But of COURSE I wanted to wait until you gave it the test run. Thanks to you and Keith for being guinea pigs. :) Hope you guys are doing well!

7/24/2009  
Anonymous Fred said...

Sigh. I had high hopes for a place that bills itself as an East Coast Pizzeria. I was wishing for a neapolitan pizza--crispy, but chewy crust, simple tomato sauce, and not too much cheese (with pure, fresh mozarella).

I stopped in to Vinny's a week ago (might have been there first night open) and saw a gas fired oven. While that rules out neapolitan style, it doesn't rule out decent east coast pizza.

Glad to read your review. From the looks of it, it might be a decent gas-fired pie and might be a nice change from Antonio's.

And for real pizza, I'll just stick to making it myself. :)

FYI: The bubbles that you remember form from very, very high heat (1000F). Like you said, it doesn't have much to do with the dough. Heck, you can use Domino's dough (seriously) and if your baking temperature is above 700 or 800 degrees you will get decent char and a nice, crispy crust.

7/24/2009  
Blogger Jenna Z said...

You know the secret ith this palce, call ahead if you don't want to wait anywhere between 15-20 minutes for a slice of pre-baked pizza and 340-50 minutes for pasta! How long should it take to put a slice of pizza on a plate? Not 15 minutes! After visiting for lunch, I am hoping they improve their service and reduce their menu, they make WAY too many items and their ovens and staff are FAR too slow. Thin crust pizza should NOT take 45 minutes to bake. I rate the pizza's taste at or below Antonio's but my vote is for Manolo's. Both of those are faster options than Viny's.

7/24/2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I tried a chicken quesadillas. It tasted good at the time but caused me to shed some weight in a hurry later on.

7/24/2009  
Blogger Lisa said...

Anon: Let me know what you think once you try it.

Mica: Check it out and let me know.

Hi Amanda, I had not tried Antonio's pizza till today! And I must say—really good. I would go on but don't want to make this a review of Antonio's; I'll have to write them up sometime. Thanks for mentioning it. Re: comparison to Vinny's—A's sauce is more highly seasoned (which I liked), and they know what they're doing with the crust; it's browned and bubbly on the edges like it should be. Try Vinny's sometime and let me know what you think.

Genki and Razzie: If you go, let me know. I tried A's today and I agree that it's very good.

Nanette, glad to hear you enjoyed the food. I'm surprised at these long wait times I'm reading about here in comments. Well, it's maybe Day 6 in operation over there, so I'll forgive them while they figure it out.

Hey Mindy, thanks. Let me know what you have and what you think, once you go.

Fred: Right, this is not wood-fired pizza, and right, that doesn't mean it can't be good! I tried Antonio's today and I think they each have their merits, though as I noted, Vinny's needs to work on the baking re: the crust edges. I think what you said is right on: It's a decent gas-fired pie. :) Thanks for the comments, I enjoyed reading them.

Jenna, sounds like you encountered some terribly long waits there. I would have been very unhappy, too, but I'm so surprised, since I didn't have that experience at all. When I called ahead, I was there in 15 mins. and my order, as I noted, was packaged and ready to go. Well, as I said above, they've only been open a few days, so they're obviously figuring out how to pace things. I've not tried Manolo's but I keep meaning to.

Anon: A little more info than we needed! In any case, I don't think they should be fooling around with quesadillas, wings, etc., anyway. My pizza and pasta tasted good at the time and digested well, so that's probably the way to go. :)

7/24/2009  
Anonymous Kris said...

The menu alone made me happy and less homesick for the east coast! I liked the pizza, though I found the sauce a bit too sweet. Very happy to welcome Vinny's to C-U!

7/24/2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yay! I've been home in NYC for the summer and have been dreading leaving all the wonderful food to head back to CU. Having a new east coast style pizza place in town is great! I've been to Antonio's and really enjoyed it - so far it's the closest to east coast pizza that I've found. In the meantime, I will be eating an entire mushroom and pepperoni pizza the night before I leave Brooklyn to head back.

- SMDNY

7/24/2009  
Anonymous Lek said...

You're always fast. I just read it from the New-Gazette about this place :)

7/25/2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Went today for lunch...pretty quick. I thought the pizza pretty good overall. The garlic bread...lookout. Don't dare breathe on anyone after that. I must say, though, that I probably prefer Manolo's pizza.

7/25/2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

had lunch there today - pepperoni slices were very good, loved the meatball appetizer and garlic bread. Plus a GREAT price!

7/25/2009  
Blogger Lisa said...

Kris, glad to hear the menu cheered you up. ;) Thanks for the comment and report.

Anon: I'd like to be in Brooklyn eating that pizza with you!

Lek: I try!

Anon: I know—the garlic bread is great. Real garlic on there, how novel these days. I've been meaning to try Manolo's for eons, but haven't made it yet.

Anon: Glad it worked out. Thanks much for the report. Great prices is right!

7/26/2009  
Blogger douglitas, a.k.a. cdesign proponentsist said...

Went to Vinny's with my family last night, and was not disappointed. The meatballs in the sub were thick and tasty, the bread was fresh, and the pizza was just like the stuff I ate growing up in New Jersey. I disagree with those who have commented negatively on the crust...I think a pliable, chewy crust with just a bit of crispiness is truly the East Coast pizza way. I give this place very very high marks. I hope it sticks around.

7/26/2009  
Blogger douglitas, a.k.a. cdesign proponentsist said...

p.s. We weren't disappointed with the hot wings, either. Vinny's advertises that they never freeze their chicken, and you can really taste that. A spicy vinegar-based sauce, almost like Louisiana hot sauce, made them mouth-watering.

7/26/2009  
Blogger Lisa said...

Douglitas, thanks for the report. I'm glad you enjoyed Vinny's. Good to hear about the wings; I'll try those sometime.

7/27/2009  
Anonymous Lisa S. said...

I'm very excited about this new pizza place! My mom is a born and bred New Yorker, so my family LOVES NY-style pizza. I haven't tried either Antonio's or Vinny's, but I plan to get to both soon. Thanks for the review!

7/27/2009  
Blogger Mary said...

Lisa, my husband and I were saying the same things about Vinny's before we read your review! They do seem to be trying to do too much.

We came to Champaign from Manhattan 11 years ago, and boy, have we missed NY pizza. My maternal grandparents migrated from Italy, and I miss good Italian food. Biting into a slice of cheese pizza from Vinny's was almost like being in NY again. Thanks for the suggestion from your commenters to try Antonio's. I've often passed it, but never tried it.

7/28/2009  
Blogger Lisa said...

Lisa, thanks for the comment. When you've tried Vinny's, let me know what you think.

Mary: I'm glad you liked it! And—I like the plain cheese the best, myself. Nice that it made you feel like home.

7/28/2009  
Blogger Mindy said...

Went today...really enjoyed it. Wasn't so much a fan of the sausage...plain cheese was great. It wasn't greasy...crust was good. I'm a sauce fan though...liked the sauce!

7/29/2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The pizza is good, but the people working there are SO incredibly rude it's not worth it. They laughed at me when I placed my order and made me feel very uncomfortable. I would never go back! Plus, their parking lot is not clearly marked. Good luck to them staying business....

7/29/2009  
Blogger LD said...

Anyone know if there's a connection to Antonio's? I went today for lunch and the guy behind the counter was the same guy that's been behind the counter (and maybe in charge) over at Antonio's for the past couple years. The crust is a little different, but a lot of the pizza flavors are the same.

7/29/2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a native east-central Illinois person, I'm confused by this folding of the pizza. I've seen this mentioned before, but my questions are how and why?

How are you folding the pizza? So that you get a long, skinny piece? Or are you bringing the tip up to the crust to get a weird, lumpy rectangle?

Why would you fold a pizza? Wouldn't it be harder to eat? I feel like I'm missing something here.

7/29/2009  
Blogger Lisa said...

Mindy, I hear you about the sausage. I thought the big globs of it were a little much. I do also like the sauce. The sauce and cheese on the plain pizza is just right, in my book.

Anon: How surprising! Every time I've gone (and anonymously, I might add), the staff has been very friendly and helpful.

LD: Hmm. In the N-G article it gave the name of the owner and said that he'd worked in NYC and that this was his first restaurant. Possibly the Antonio's guy is switching teams, or possibly he's a friend/consultant, or possibly he's an investor—who knows? Interesting. I agree that the crust is different at the two places. And the sauce. And the sausage. Etc.!

Anon: You fold the big wedge in half lengthwise, so that you have a long, skinnier piece. I personally don't love doing that, I just eat it as-is, but sometimes people do that to make it easier to eat while walking around or whatever, or just because they like to, and that kind of crust allows you to do so. As you mentioned, I find that folding actually makes it somewhat harder to eat—and somewhat less enjoyable, even.

7/30/2009  
Blogger topaz said...

DO they make a real SCILIAN new york style pizza?

7/31/2009  
Blogger Diana - FreeStyleMama said...

Hi! Found you in the NG! We will have to try this place out!

7/31/2009  
Blogger Mrs. Chicken said...

Can't wait to give it a try. The crust issue may be because their ovens aren't quite hot enough. I know I have that issue when I make homemade pizza dough. Thanks for the review, I see Vinny's in my near-future, as soon as we get home from our East Coast summer trip (where we ate real NYC style pizza).

7/31/2009  
Blogger Lisa said...

Topaz: I don't believe they offer the thick-crusted, square-pan, Sicilian-style pizza here (but FYI, they do at Antonio's on campus, and it looked very good, though I haven't tried it).

Hi Diana! Let me know what you think, once you've tried it.

Mrs. Chicken, lucky you to have such a nice vacation and to eat the real thing in the real place. :) If you try Vinny's, let me know. I've become quite fond of their cheese pizza.

7/31/2009  
Blogger Reynaldo said...

Read the questions regarding the owner and he used to manage over at Antonio's, before that he worked and lived in several spots on the East Coast - Brooklyn, near Boston, and somewhere in Jersey, I believe. Vinny's is his first place as owner.

8/04/2009  
Anonymous just some guy said...

try the sliders - they use fresh beef (never frozen) and they are delicious!!! so are the regular fresh wings!

8/04/2009  
Blogger Lisa said...

Reynaldo: Ah, thus, the Antonio's connection. Thanks for the info.

Some guy: Glad to hear you've enjoyed the sliders; thanks for the report on them and the second on the wings.

8/05/2009  
Anonymous Lisa S. said...

I tried Vinny's on Friday, and I was quite pleased. Five of us shared a half-pepperoni, half-sausage pie, along with 4 calzones. I know, a lot of food! But we weren't disappointed, as everything tasted great. Not too much sauce or crust, not too greasy, tasty meats, etc. And I'm so relieved that pizza places are now offering calzones with ricotta cheese! Who ever heard of a calzone w/o ricotta? :) But I plan on making this a regular pizza pick-up. Thanks for the initial review, Lisa!

8/05/2009  
Blogger Lisa said...

Lisa, glad to hear you liked it, thanks for the report. I must try a calzone sometime.

8/06/2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After reading these reviews, we ordered our pizza well done. The result...a crispy, chewy crust!

8/07/2009  
Anonymous Mandy said...

My boyfriend has been raving about Vinny's since he went there for lunch last week. We tried it over the weekend and I have to say I was impressed. We got the mozzarella, basil, and tomato pizza. Fresh, light, and delicious.

8/10/2009  
Blogger Lisa said...

Anon, thanks for the report.

Mandy: I've been wanting to try that one with the fresh mozz & basil.

8/12/2009  
Blogger Ernie Noa said...

I give Vinny's a thumbs up, and I'm a transplanted New Yorker.

7/06/2010  
Blogger Lisa said...

Ernie, thanks for the comment; glad you liked the pizza.

7/07/2010  

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